How I landed an interview with Jamie Ivey
"How did you land an interview with Jamie Ivey?!"
It's the question I've been asked the most these past couple of weeks.
In case you haven't heard of Jamie Ivey, she's the author of If You Only Knew (highly rec), notable podcaster of "The Happy Hour", and an overall powerful force in Christian women's ministry.
So I wasn't entirely shocked that people were entirely shocked when I, a newly full-time blogger with a few hundred Instagram followers and even less blog followers, landed THE. JAMIE. IVEY. for an interview on my little Instagram Live.
How did I do it?
I had the audacity to ask.
Scripture isn't unclear about asking big things with faith.
And Jesus answered them, “Truly, I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what has been done... but even if you say to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and thrown into the sea,’ it will happen. And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith.”
And it even says that although the ask may be big, you don't have to have big faith -- just faith the size of a mustard seed, right?
Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of the boy, and he was healed at that moment. Then the disciples came to Jesus in private and asked, “Why couldn’t we drive it out?” He replied, “Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.”
Over the last month, I've asked a lot of people to go live with me. A few weren't comfortable with live (yet), and a couple flat out said no. But most people said yes!
Which left me scratching my head wondering, "Why didn't I ask sooner??"
Oh yeah!! I assumed, as most of us do, that ONE DAY I'll have a big enough ministry, a big enough following, a big enough impact to ask for audacious things.
But if you wait til then, is it really faith?
Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.
For me, faith meant asking someone with an exponential amount more influence to do an interview with me.
What I Learned From Jamie Ivey
What I learned from Jamie was indelible.
Jamie and I discussed this notion that "one day my words will matter enough" and "one day when I am reaching enough people -- then I'll matter". And what she said is timeless and true:
What you're doing when you say those things is telling the people who are right in front of you that they don't matter.
The husband sitting opposite you -- he doesn't matter. The kids looking to you for raising -- they don't matter. The friends you have -- they aren't enough. The followers you have -- they aren't important enough.
WOAH! That smacked me for a moment. It's all too easy to get distracted in trying to beat the algorithm to glorify the "some day" and bulldoze the vital importance of TODAY.
And even if you're NOT trying to build a social media following, you aren't above this game. How often are the things you do numbers-driven? Yikes... Got em!
See, this isn't a social media problem. This is a people problem. We're driven to conquer. We're driven to expand. We're driven to grow influence by numbers.
There are good reasons for all of that, but there are also bad. The bad reason is to desire influence out of a negative self-worth, working with a chip on your shoulder, trying to prove YOURSELF. Reality check: it's not about you.
Your giftedness, your talents, your ease in working in your passion career...IT'S. NOT. ABOUT. YOU.
The good reason -- the good purpose -- for wanting to grow your influence is to grow God's influence in people's lives. When we put the purpose back on the One who deserves all the glory, the One who can permanently change people's lives -- THAT is when we're operating from a good place. We're in the flow. Everything is working correctly, because we're not trying to steal glory for ourselves. We're covered in grace to ask audacious requests, receive audacious answers, and be a testament to others of God-honoring faith. IT'S ALL ABOUT HIM!
Not Some Day, But TODAY
Today, we have people looking at us for love -- the very love of THE LIVING GOD flowing through us. They're looking at us for direction, to be an example, to act in faith amidst fear. They're watching.
Are people witnessing faith in your actions?
Let me go further. Although it's challenging to ask ourselves what other people are witnessing in our actions, it's merely a by-product of the real question:
What does God see in your actions?
I love the expression: "Live for an audience of One." The One who designed you. The One who instilled you with supernatural gifts, talents and skills. The One who wrote His Scripture on your heart. The One who endowed you with the Holy Spirit to guide you.
Would God look at your work and be overjoyed with your faithfulness? Because He does look at your work (and your life). He sees all of your actions, from faithful to fearful and everywhere in between.
Personally, my actions are not always faithful...maybe even less often than I realize.
This time though -- asking Jamie for an interview -- I was acting on faith. I think God was thrilled that I acted audaciously to ask someone who I'm truthfully intimidated by to have a conversation with me.
Faith Amidst Fear
Let me be clear, though. Even in faith, doubts roamed my head:
What if she says no? Answer: Okay, move on.
What if she laughs me off? Answer: There's about a 0% chance that will happen, but of course doubts aren't always rational.
What if I land the interview but totally mess it up?? Answer: Live and learn. I'll be better next time.
If I'm being honest with you, it wasn't my best interview. Looking back on it, I should have been more brief. It was supposed to be 15 minutes, but it turned into 30. I got a little starstruck. I asked the same question twice. Doiiii! But I will be better next time!
And more importantly, God didn't ask me to be the perfect interviewer. He asked me to step out of my comfort zone and try something I've not done before. He asked me to trust Him to get through it. He asked me to put my self-worth in Him so I wouldn't be so intimidated by someone who was so much more experienced. He asked me to have the faith it takes to show up.
I'm glad I had the audacity to ask someone way out of my league to chat on my Insta. And I'm so looking forward to a number of other interviews I have coming up this month. (Note: Every single time I ask someone to go Live, no matter their follower count, I face all the fears above. But I keep asking!)
As a true testament that faith took me farther than I was prepared, I had a technical glitch which you will see. I recorded the interview (all 30 minutes), but for some reason, the sound cut off after 6 minutes. LOL! (Laughing to keep from crying.....) The first 6 minutes were good though, so enjoy!